Chris, why do you feel like Captain America is the perfect hero for our times?
Americans look at Thomas Jefferson and see the one of the authors of the Declaration of Independence, a statesman, a former president and one of the founding fathers,’ however; when I look at him, I see the face of a rapist
Posting this because it covers this so much better than I can… I’m actually angry now
This only makes him look less guilty.
>half of it is rumors and speculation
>how is their DNA evidence? We don’t have his DNA
>Admits the possibility that they actually had feelings for each other. Regardless if this can’t amount to legal consent he certainly doesn’t seem depraved in my book if the two had feelings for each other.
>Context still matters. You can’t just erase that. Someone who is very well aware of the fact that what they are doing is wrong is more guilty than someone who doesn’t understand. Even our legal system abides by this principle.
>Lol keep getting mad, no one cares and you’re not going to change anything, especially not facts. He was an amazing person and he will always be revered. So keep crying all you want.
What a bunch of conjecture and nonsense. These feminists are just contriving stories because they’re bored. Get a life.
What about this is contrived?
Jefferson did conceive 6 children with a woman whom he owned, who was 14 at the time of first provable intercourse. This is a historical fact.
As his slave, she could not have consented to sex with him. When one cannot refuse sex, it is referred to as “coercive rape”. If someone holds a gun to my head and tells me “let me have sex with you or I’ll shoot”, it is still rape. Likewise, if someone has the power to sell me, beat me or kill me if I don’t have sex with them, even if they themselves might never do so, you better be damned sure I’m not going to refuse because that threat is there.
So where, pray tell, is the conjecture and nonsense?
I was referring to the accusation that Jefferson raped Hemings. She traveled with Jefferson and his daughter and was very close to him throughout his life. Before you start throwing around the term “historic fact,” know that the research about the DNA testing is still highly debated, though very convincing. I’m not leaning either way on the matter, but there is no proof that she was raped. She had a perfect chance to be a free woman in France and chose to return to the US with Jefferson, not to mention she never had a common-law husband. Jefferson also freed many of her children despite being against freeing the slave and causing an uprising. Isn’t it just as probable that if he did indeed father 6 damn children with this lady that maybe it was just an affair? She was, after all, the half sister to Jefferson’s dead wife… which he consequently vowed never to wed again. Despite the times they were living in, the life he was born and married into, and the societal pressure he was particularly under, Jefferson was adamantly against slavery.
The abolition of domestic slavery is the great object of desire in those colonies where it was unhappily introduced in their infant state. But previous to the infranchisement of the slaves we have, it is necessary to exclude all further importations from Africa. Yet our repeated attempts to effect this by prohibitions, and by imposing duties which might amount to a prohibition, have been hitherto defeated by his majesty negative: thus preferring the immediate advantages of a few British corsairs to the lasting interests of the American states, and to the rights of human nature deeply wounded by this infamous practice. Nay the single interposition of an interested individual against a law was scarcely ever known to fail of success, tho’ in the opposite scale were placed the interests of a whole country. That this is so shameful an abuse of a power trusted with his majesty for other purposes, as if not reformed would call for some legal restrictions.
- Thomas Jefferson
There’s a pretty solid consensus of historians on Jefferson’s parentage of all six of Hemings’ children. This interview with one of the preminant Jefferson scholars discusses it in part, but basically, no other male Jefferson had the access to Hemings that he did at the times when she conceived.
So she should have run away in a foreign country, where she didn’t speak the language, have any education, or anywhere to go?
He freed two of her children. He left her and the other two surviving ones in slavery. If he loved her, wouldn’t he free her?
She was 14 the first time she conceived. And there is no consent under duress- and when someone who literally owns you and has the power of life or death over you asks you for sex, there is duress sure as if they have a gun to your head. That threat is always above your head.
- Like I said, there are good arguments on both fronts. I’m probably leaning towards that he was the father based on presented evidence, but I’m still not totally convinced.
- Yes. She would have easily ran away in France. She lived there for over 2 years. Slaves ran away from their plantations all the time and had no certain clue what existed outside the property. If she wanted to get away, she would have. You also have no idea whether she spoke French or not.
- Her slavery at the point was more of an informality. She was informally released by Jefferson’s daughter or something to that extent.
- There’s no proof whatsoever that Jefferson was the father of her first child. She lost her first child shortly after returning to America. And even if she was sleeping with Jefferson in France, she was technically free by French law. There was no threat…accept possibly jungle fever. Unless she had the worst case of Stockholm’s Syndrome possible, she didn’t feel threatened by Jefferson. Don’t forget Jefferson was an emotional wreck after he lost his wife. IMHO, he was more of a lover than an abuser type. This wasn’t some kind of weird S&M story.
Excuse me, what? I’m not making it a fetish scenario (though there is absolutely nothing wrong with BDSM). I’m stating that, at the very least Hemings was not in a social or personal situation in which she could have refused him.
Can people seriously stop pretending consent is possible within literal slavery? Or that consent is possible when you’re literally a child being coerced by an adult?
Nothing will fuck up your twenties more than thinking you’re supposed to have your shit together.
chocolate-covered cheesecake on a stick
i just made an elongated choking sound
i would deepthroat like 4 of these at one time.
i would eat it normally yall weird as fuck
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Okay, this is actually what you do if you’re being sexually harassed in any kind of public space. Draw attention to it, preferably pull away and let EVERYONE know that someone is touching you. This will not only get him to get off you but he’ll definitely think about this situation next time he wants to do something like this.
Spreading the word.
will you marry me = a marriage proposal
will, you, Mary, me = a foursome proposal
Will you, Mary me = Cavewoman Mary helps Will recover from his Amnesia
Will, you marry me. = Will’s time-traveling partner
And people keep trying to tell me that punctuation isn’t important
i have to go meet people for lunch but i’m mostly just ENRAGED anew at popular ‘theologies’ that let yt people justify themselves and their ancestors for chattel slavery and colonization and genocide and that were a huge ideological basis for why those yt ancestors chose to do these things in the first place
here’s a really great link explaining the cause-and-effect between theology and practice as it relates to colonization and slavery and why i refuse to be associated with calvinism